Just an alert to other "home-educating parents: look closely aqt potential colleges to see exactly what kind of credit they apply to college and college-equivalent courses.
My daughter applied to six universities, all within our state system, and one would think the credit policies as all pretty much the same. Well! We learned that one of the colleges--not even the top school--gives only .5 additional credit (weight) for any dual enrollment courses taken in high school, and it would not accept CLEP credits to fulfill required core subjects. All other universities, including the top school, weight the dual-enrollment classes an extra 1.0 credit, and also give credit for CLEP courses to fulfill required core subjects.
So true, Kim! Always check with the individual college, because policies vary WIDELY - oceans and oceans wide, it seems!
So, even if a college doesn't accept CLEP courses as fulfillment of a college class, will they recognize it as fulfillment of the high school course?
And will this make the student's college application more competitive?
And not to hijack the post, but will organizations like National Homeschool Honor Society and other "honor" societies make a student's college application more competitive?
Colleges each have their own policy about CLEP and other things. The best answer is to find out what YOUR colleges want, and then GIVE them what they want to the best of your ability. However, CLEP is outside documentation of your homeschool, just like AP, SAT Subject Tests, SAT and ACT provide outside documentation. Using CLEP as a way to document what they learn will provide additional weight to your transcript. That doesn't mean a college will necessarily prefer your student over another, however. When you are homeschooling independently, you can teach a class in your own way. You can evaluate in your own way. If you teach the content of a CLEP exam, and then evaluate the success of your class with a CLEP exam, it will certainly not be any LESS recognized as a homeschool class. Instead, the outside documentation of the test can demonstrate that your child knows the material.
If you are applying to very competitive schools, find out what they want and give it to them. Our first choice schools accepted CLEP, so we used that for our outside documentation. Some other schools we applied to did not recognize CLEP in their admission policy, but it did improve their position for admission.
If you have a high school student who has taken the PSAT or SAT or ACT, you may get some offers to join an honor society. Some are legitimate and some are not. Try to determine if the honor society is tied to some sort of actual “honor” like GPA or SAT scores. Then look to see if it is a money-making organization or a charitable organization offering the award. A legitimate honor society may make a college application more competitive, but not necessarily any more than the GPA and SAT score required to receive the award.
You recommend one high school credit for a passed CLEP test. I'm not sure which credit system you use. For s, one credit represents one high school semester. Is it the same for Lee's posts?
I'm actually a student, not a parent, but I have a question. The article says to give 1 credit for each CLEP test passed, but the CLEP test for Spanish is the equivalent of 2 years (4 semesters) of college level Spanish, which is usually 4 years of high school Spanish. How many credits does this count for? I learned the material in about 2 years on my own just because I love learning languages, but I never kept track of hours.
For specific test-related questions, here are three big ideas to help:
1. Ask the university where you hope to attend and give 1 high school credit per class they equate to that CLEP.
2. Look at the "sample CLEP policy" from the CollegeBoard to estimate. Each equivalent college class could be one high school credit. http://clep.collegeboard.org/develop/sample-policy.
3. Remember, it all depends on where you end up, and the CLEP policy for that university.
What about a kid who studies for a CLEP and then misses it by that much (picture thumb and index finger about an inch apart!) My son studied for two CLEP tests and missed by a few points. I gave him a B because of the time and also because the material was college level. What say you Lee? ; )
You could ignore the CLEP scores altogether, and just grade his work in the "class." Or you could give him a B, as you suggested. Or you could allow him to continue to study and take the test again. Lots of options, and it depends on the situation.
My daughter studied Apologia's Biology last year and got an A. Then she took the CLEP (6 college credits) for outside documentation and potential college credit. How do I record this information on her transcript? I'm confused.
You might find Lee's article: Homeschooling College with CLEP helpful. Especially the step entitled, "Add to Transcript " Here's the link: http://www.thehomescholar.com/recent-articles/homeschool-college-clep.php
I hope this helps! Keep up the good work!
In my dd's case we put the CLEP course as a class. Also, we didn't even start taking the CLEPs until we identified that our local Community College would accept it. My dd got her AA degree at the CC then transfered (luckily as planned) to a reputable state college that accepted her CLEPs and all her credits which only meant she needed just 10 classes for her BS degree. So it can be done if well planned.
Well done, Nita!
It's so important to do the "leg work" first to see what the community college and universities are looking for! Lee talks about that all the time!